Tuesday, 30 March 2010

Fatah vs Hamas



Following on from the last debate about the status of the Islamic minority in India this Doha debate is an absolute corker. I'm actually very impressed that they had the balls to get two Fatah and two Hamas big wigs to sit opposite each other after the quasi civil war they fought after Hamas became the dominant party in Gaza in the Palestinian National Authority (Palestine's de facto governing body since 1994)elections in 2006 breaking decades of Fatah dominance.

The dispute turned bloody when Fatah members in Gaza try to take back control by force effectively splitting Palestine between Hamas Gaza and Fatah West Bank. And tensions have remained high ever since as both sides have done everything in there power to oust the other in there home bases, including arrests and intimidation.


So lets watch and see how it'll all turnout.


Well the result of the vote, essentially a referendum on the Palestinian peoples confidence or lack thereof in there current leadership (which includes all parties and factions) doesn't really surprise me.

Fatah once a giant of Plaestinian politics under Yasser Arafat have now become a magnet for Palestinian discontent and anger under Mahmoud Abbas whose been accused of kowtowing to the West (Americans) and Israel, while many of his constituents are facing expulsion or worse.

Then theres Hamas. Since Hamas became the de facto leadership of Gaza they have faced extreme repressive measures from Israel (Hamas still refuse to recognise Israel or rule out armed struggle). The blockade of Gaza with the shameful support of Egypt's Dictator Hosni Mubarak. Then of course there was operation Cast Lead essentially a re run of Israel's invasion of Lebanon in 2006 (warning contains pictures of casualties).

And in the face of all that Hamas has maintained a reputation of defiance which like in the Black communities of Apartheid South Africa is one of the few things Palestinians can take pride in that the Israeli's can't take from them.(There's a Palestinian tradition of naming your children after the prison they were incarcerated in). But there strict interpretations of Islam have ensured that the Palestinian religious minorities and large sections of the female and secular Islamic communities are alienated. And there defiance though undoubtedly noble hasn't translated into any meaningful gains on the ground, that noose on Gaza just keeps getting tighter and tighter.

With all that said it is good to see the two sides fighting with words rather then Kalashnikov's and its encouraging to hear that a final ceasefire agreement isn't to far off.

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3 comments:

  1. There exists no "Isreal" by German & Egyptian history data. Back then Kanaanite (Palestinian ancestors, also Kanaanite founded Jerusalem) RULED ALL the lands of the several tribes before the Kanaanite came there. Jews at the time in Syria and "Iraq" Mesopotamia. Lots laters Pharao ECHNATON lied himself into FLAT Sun DISK god ATON. Jews copied that FLAT SUN DISK God BETWEEN 1352-1336. START of Hebrew religion to LIE themselves into the stolen flat sun disk god. So before could NOT exist ANY "Isreal". By research into Egyptian data also was NO Josef at Pharao. NEVER any such "Israel" existed, as Esra LIES. It could be SUED legally as OFFENSE contra FREEDOM of RELIGION: To demand to lie an "Isreal". As Buddheists, ATHEISTS, Germanic religion, Celtic religion, Taoism, Red Indian religions, Hinduism, etc, all NOT have the by Jews stolen flat sun disk god belief: NO one of them can be forced to believe a flat sun disk god stolen supposed to have appeared and talked to a Jews, BEFORE they stole the Egyptian one god flat sun disk Aton. Wherefore ALL OTHER RELIGIONS could SUE INTERNATIONALLY contra any demands to lie for some "IRAQI" Mesopotamian Jewish cattle thieves descendants.

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  2. Other religions do NOT belief into the stolen flat sun disk god Aton. To demand any lies "Israel" means Jews want all to lie that before they copied Egyptians one flat sun disk god Aton 1352-1336 before Chr, supposed the flat sun disk god stolen to have appeared BEFORE the founding date of Hebrew religion. The flat sun disk god was believed to be shoved by a little bug into the sky. So supposed maybe, while the scarabeaus bug insect rolls the flat sun disk into the sky, as by Egyptian belief, that then the flat sun disk stolen to have had a mouth to talk "Israel" to a by Esra lied up Jakob. As other religions do NOT believe into that flat stolen sun disk god of Jews, and ATHEISTS NO gods = NO "Isreal" believe: It is CONTRA FREEDOM OF RELIGION and could be LEGALLY SUED: If anyone demands to believe Jewish lies. Around Earth could be sued contra all who try to abolish the FREEDOM of ALL OTHER RELIGIONS and ATHEISTS, who do not believe in Esras lies. Esra lied 5xx before Chr in Babylon "Moses" with two other authors. Actually as GERMANS in EGYPTIAN DATA RESEARCH found NO Moses, it is theorized there, where NO Moses existed. If Esra and to other authors (7 days, Assyrian GARDEN BELIEF stolen into Eden) lied themselves all three into an invented "Mose"? Esra LIES to BEFORE the founding data of the Hebrew religion in Pharao ECHNATONS time. ECHNATON means Servant of FLAT sun DISK god. Esra might want to lie he stems of the flat stolen sun disk god trans invented many centuries old (for Esras steal plans lie stuff there) who supposed not get half girls and boys, but instead in lied up ages so many boys, as Esras fantasy wants, till himself Esra. The direct descendant of FLAT sun DISK god stolen in Egypt, in lies, where Esra of Leviten tries to lie, who of an (unproven) Mose brother, as he, to get food, clothing, wanting his balls to the top of power, and liking fantasies direction sexual abuse or rape of child-girls in paedophiliac perversions. NO other religion (Germanic, Hindu, Celtic, Red Indian, Taoism, etc.) needs to believe into the flat stolen sun disk god, or lies that it supposed to have talked to a lied Jakob. It is an offense CONTRA RELIGIONS FREEDOM to demand any "Isreal" belief, as it is contra science, and is the demand to change from all other religions to the lies of Jews of Mesopotamia (IRAQ), who want to lie themselves into a flat stolen sun disk god.
    It could be SUED INTERNATIONALLY topic FREEDOM OF RELIGION: contra the try to foce crimninalism and offending religious freedom with LIES "Israel" of Jews to lie themselves into a stolen flat sun disk god, to STEAL Jerusalem PALESTINIAN ancestors FOUNDED, and when thief David attacked Jerusalem the lands back then called LAND KANAAN (NO "Israel") with PHILISTERLAND = PALESTINE, meaning PHILISTERLAND (= NO "Israel").

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  3. By Jewish data Jews stem of MESOPOTAMIA = IRAQ (by German data also of Syria / Assyria, migrating tribes, who did not owe the two lands, they stem from).

    Jews reference to themselves as MESOPOTAMIANS = IRAQI. Of Mesopotamia = IRAQ.

    Thou shalt NOT steal:
    The Mesopotamian Jews steemed not to comprehend many so far in it's fundamental meaning.
    They inform, they of Mesopotamia (IRAQ) and came to Kanaan with Philisterland (PALESTINE).
    Criminal Jewish cattle thieves then moving over the Jordan to STEAL CATTLE.
    Living as STRANGERS in PHILISTERLAND (PALESTINE).
    Trying steal water for stolen cattle, while as FOREIGNERS living in PHILSTERLAND (= PALESTINE).


    Terrorist Jews have not the right to try abolish Christianity THOU SHALT NOT steal HOLY LAND PALESTINE.

    Terrorist Jews have no rights to try demand of Islam NOT STEAL: For Jews of Syria and IRAQ area Mesopotamia to become stealing thieves.
    That would be contra the FREEDOM of RELIGION of ISLAM: Thou shalt NOT steal.

    I think Jews thieves terrorists stemming of Syria and Irak Mesopotamia: Should try to buy empty Sibiria areas and emtpy areas along Canadian borded, buying them from the real owners, Red Indians: To LEGALLY by themselves 2 Nations for all future of the estimated next 4 billion years.

    In both cases the two empty lands are tried stolen (Russians steal behind Ural, Anglo-Saxon and Franken steal in North American and could move the border between them a bit, so Land ATONa could fit between).

    There exists NO "Israel" for ALL ATHEISTS, to whom I pertain, as NO gods exist for atheists, and with that NO "Isreal" could exist.
    Apart from that back then was not even founded yet the Hebrew religion.

    Back then is said existed the GOLDEN BULL of KANAAN religion. That was tried lied by Esra into a golden calf. To lie smaller the big Bull. 11 Clans of Hebrew are said to NOT have believed, that "Mose" is a god, as they ALL of GOLDEN BULL RELIGION. And that they said, "Jakob" was of the GOLDEN BULL RELIGION as THEY ALL.

    As was back then not yet founded the Hebrew religion, not yet till Pharao ECHNATON 1352-1336, NEVER existed before any such "Israel" as ESRA LIES up, an NO Josef at pharao either.

    It could be SUED INTERNATIONALLY by all atheists and ALL differing RELIGIONS:
    CONTRA Jewish lying terrorists of Syria and Iraq area Mesopotamia want STEAL religions FREEDOM, as wanting to STEAL external of Syria and IRAQ area they stem from as migrating tribes from there.
    They reference to themselves as MESOPOTAMIAN (= IRAQI).

    PHILISTERLAND = PALESTINE is NOT of IRAQI MESOPOTAMIAN cattle THIEVES descendants, but of several other differing tribes there, before KANAANITE (PALESTINIANS) FOUNDED JERUSALEM.

    THOU shalt NOT steal.

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